Exactly, why try to mislead people, those guys just care about cash, they were not seducers to begin with.

RJ

And no, it is NOT deceptive to ask for an email address. You are still not required to pay a penny to me to receive more value from me for free than other people SELL for hundreds of dollars.

Finally, I have a place where I don't even require an email opt-in

Go here:

http://www.seduction4free.com

As for your comment about “turning them in”, would you not report a car theft in progress?

RJ

Rather than all stroke each other here, you should really put down the kook aid and think about what it says when you rally so hard against someone like this. It looks very manipulative.

Now, I'm really not trying to incite things here. I'm just testing the water to see just how moderate and open people are to seeing the big picture.

By the way, there are a LOT of great gurus out there giving away a TON of great stuff.

Black and white thinking is pretty myopic in my view.

C. A.

Well. Where do i start?

First ill thank you Ross. I am a PUA company in the UK called Get me the Girl. Even though it is a second business to me, i still seek to succeed in what I do. I struggle to make any impact in the UK when for every email i send with genuine advice, “the company in discussion” sends 8 sales emails. Not only that, he sends them twice! Mine just gets lost in the inbox.

However. I have to thank “Those who shall not be named” for being so shit at what they do. For ALL, and i mean ALL my clients so far have turned to my 'not so well known training company' having been ripped off by them. When i actually begin the course with my clients, i realise that these guys are in no state to even pick up a girl, and have been pumped up with belief that what they are doing now is RIGHT. Well its not, and it makes my job harder to have to tell them that they just got bumped £750 for a course that i could have taught in ten minutes over a table. They have given them nothing but false confidence.

But then if they werent so shit, i wouldnt get half the trade i do. Plus, when i do get time to put some dedication to this, my job of becoming the leading PUA company in the UK is made easy because the competition is wank. There is such a huge gap to fill its brilliant.

The thing with “Those who shall not be named” is he is hands down, THE BEST AT MARKETING. He is brilliant at getting people hooked on bullshit. He could sell sand to the arabs. There is a pool of guys like him in this world, and they are just fantastic and selling whatever they can possibly put together. He is a Del Boy Trotter.

And we wouldnt mind if the product/service he offered matched his marketing. If he had the product that could genuinly get you any girl you want in the world, then every guy on this planet would pay every penny they had to learn it. Unfortunately, its not the case.

Ross, you wont know me as of yet, i have just started out. Im the JLS of music and your Michael Jackson (just not dead). So if i were to say what you have said in this blog, everyone would have shot me down and said im just trying to beat people down.

I dont want to get involved in a huge slagging fest of shit Pick up Guru's, but i just wanted to say this.

I look forward to keeping in touch,

Kind Regards,

Jamie Cole
Senior Coach