Dear Speed Seduction® Student,
A student of mine reported a challenge he was facing. When using various seduction patterns, he found the same thing kept happening. He was getting the “B answer” result that might have kept conversation going – as opposed to the “A answer” which would have been a turbo-charged ride on the Cape Carnal-Veral Shuttle.
Let’s hear from him:
> Hi guys, today I’m stuck at home, and I was just going true my sarge journal. I noticed that most of the time I used the natural vs social pattern I ended up in a in intellectual discussion instead of becoming more of an authority in her world. Now that I think about it I’ve had the same problem with a pattern. I don’t know what it is called but it’s a combination of apposition of opposites and the fascination pattern. Do any of you guys have recognize something you might have done wrong in the past and that I can pay attention to. Or do you have any ideas how I can prevent these patterns from becoming an intellectual discussion and turn them into trance generators?
OK, RJ here again.
First, foremost, uppermost, and important-most: what attitude, energy and “vibe” about yourself is being communicated ACROSS and along with the “words”?
Are you communicating a crying need for approval? Are you hiding BEHIND the patterns, hoping against hope she won’t notice what a “geek” you are? What is the message about yourself that is being communicated along with the pattern language?
Listen: I’ve said it over and over and over and newbies don’t LISTEN AND GET IT NOW –
Think of the “patterns” as being more than the memorized “speeches”.
ANYTHING that opens her imagination and emotions is a “pattern” including your attitude, energy, what you notice and use in her responses, the questions you ask her, etc. etc. etc.
Now, think about this: if you wanted to send a 1,000 volt current, would you try to conduct it across a sheet of cardboard or a sheet of gold foil?
Equally good current, but the conductive medium matters.
Your attitude and energy and belief are the conductive medium across which the “voltage” of the pattern language will either go straight to her or simply go nowhere.
Second: have you ever really used your imagination and gotten some of the experience that you are describing in whatever “patterns” you are using? Do they reflect anything YOU have actually dreamed about, imagined, or experienced or are they merely empty words?
Third: Some women don’t get “abstract” concepts. Some have to have you address THEM directly: what excites them, what THEY enjoy what THEY do when they want to escape, get away, indulge themselves. Only AFTER that, can they at all open to more abstract discussions, like Natural vs. Culturally programmed woman.
How can you tell, in advance, if she’ll respond to more abstract patterns like Natural vs. Culturally programmed? Well, experience, in the field. But I would not start out with this pattern, especially with younger women. Save it for women in their late 20’s at least.
Start out with things that deal with HER world, and her direct experiences. If she responds well, build on that.
Make sure you also fractionate along the way; occasionally return to “fluff” talk. Challenge her to make sure she is adventurous enough and has a good enough imagination to explore these kinds of things.
Remember finally: THE pattern of ALL patterns is to watch her responses and utilize them! If she isn’t responding, back up, change themes, change what you are presenting, etc. etc. etc.
There is no “one” memorized pattern that works all the time for all women. Give up that fantasy. I have done “Incredible Connection” for years and some women melt into puddles in seconds, others NEVER GET IT.
So f@@king what? I haven’t just given you a single shot flintlock pistol. I’ve given you a 6,000 round per minute Phalanx II super-Gatling gun with unlimited ammo, to use a hostile metaphor.
Peace and piece,
RJ
P.S. At our live 3-day Speed Seduction® seminars, you’ll learn smart, workable, systematic stuff like: how to use anything in the environment or situation to always know exactly what to say; how to make observations about her that engage her attention and create connection and fascination; and much more.
I love natural vs cultured woman pattern and i did’nt knew that is not the top pattern to start with a younger woman but it works well . Wich pattern you suggest to starting with a younger woman? Connection? Discovery? Twins? 😀
THX!
Ross. Mark here from the chicago seminar. I think this is an email and a post that you should put up periodically because I think this is quite a common issue when using speed seduction.
it can even happen when I’m out with a woman who I is clearly interested in me. Yet If she is not experiencing feelings of rapport, true fascination, is not deeply invested in the interaction, then the deeper pattern language is not going to work that well. BUT it is useful to know that if this happens it simply means as you said that you have to go back to do some more workvor possibly move in a different direction to get her were we need her to be.
so in some regards it is a useful tool to be able to gauge where we are at with her in the seduction.
Its so critically important to present a good vibe/energy! These days I don’t sarge if I don’t feel great before I go out to sarge. It could just mean the simple things of getting all my other important routine tasks completed and then my mind is freed up to meet women, and therefore the energy is also flowing and oozing in just the right ways and they seem to pick up on it.